Post by Werner Pichler Post by MH
There is a lack of talent and development of talent for sure. Even the
96 and 98 teams were not very talented, with the exception of a player
or two like McAllister and Collins.
Why ? Bad diet, too much TV and video games, loss of opportunities to
play with the best English teams as more and more foreigners came in.
The two Glasgow teams with their - comparatively - deeper pockets took full
advantage of Bosman. Before 1996, only once in 16 years Rangers and Celtic
finished both in the top 2 of the Scottish League, after 1996 it happened
15 times in the 16 years until Rangers went bust.
Yes, and they DID go bust, trying to maintain their stature in Europe
when it was no longer feasible because SPL TV revenues simply can't
compete with those of bigger leagues, especially the EPL.
For the last ten years Celtic and Rangers have been selling important
players (regular starters and even stars), both Scottish and
non-Scottish, to weaker EPL teams (Southampton for instance) and
But part of my point was that talent that did come through in Scotland
used to be partially snapped up at a young age by the bigger English
clubs and developed down there. The widespread availability of cheap
foreign talent must to some extent have closed that avenue, resulting in
less motivation among boys in Scotland.
Immigration may be another factor. Immigrant populations (especially of
Africans and Carribbeans) are, I think, much lower in Scotland, so that
is a large talent pool that is not available. I assume the lower
numbers of immigrants have to do with a) work - Scotland has been an
economically disadvantaged area for quite some time b) immigrants like
to go where there are already lots of similar immigrants and C) climate
- less attractive. We see all three of those factors in Canada, with
immigrants preferring Vancouver, Montreal and Toronto to places like
Newfoundland and Nova Scotia (no work), Saskatchewan and Manitoba (too
The Dundee United team
Post by Werner Pichler
that lost the 1987 UEFA Cup final was all Scottish, compare that to the
European XI that Celtic fielded against Porto in the 2003 UEFA Cup final.
A similar thing happened in the 90's all over the place when it became
cheaper to bring in foreigners than to develop your own talent,
*especially* in smaller leagues.
Definitely true, though i think in a lot of those leagues, the top teams
did not have the pretensions and bloated self image of Celtic and Rangers
And that too is a problem at times for Scotland. In spite of all
evidence to the contrary, there is still an attitude that Georgia,
Israel, Armenia, Macedonia, and so on are all teams Scotland should beat
fairly easily. The away record against such teams is not very pretty.