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Binder Dundat
2018-09-04 19:44:01 UTC
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The most exciting thing to happen in European Football since the advent of the Offside rule starts on Thursday.

The Uefa Nations league, no one really understands how it works, it's like the weather or Watford, you just cant explain it. Like how can it be 40C in September on the Iceberg? It is too hot to even go out fishing, all you an do is drink on the Sandbar while the kiddies are off to school and hope you somehow survive the day. Or how can Watford beat the great Lilywhites, England's greatest club team of all time? I suppose it could all be down to climate change, that would certainly explain Spurs losing to Watford, that is what Mr. Lily White told me the other day while drunk on the sandbar, pretty sure that is the reason Germany crashed out of the WC and England made the Semi finals, how can previously unheard of things like that be happening now, has to be down climate change.

What I do know is that it does have promotion and relegation and some way for small teams or any teams that dont make the Euro nations cup, to actually make it somehow. Also, League A group winners play in euro cup like championship every couple of years. What I also do know, is that Jesper may be called up for the Denmark team playing this round, either that or Lego men will be playing.
I just hope Jesper can keep Bale from scoring in double digits.

In all honesty, this is probably better than playing "normal friendlies" just not sure how seriously it will be taken? Will J Low actually wear a designer scarf and jacket for this thing, like he did before? He obviously did not take the WC seriously, he was wearing a frickin T shirt, with no designer label, no wonder they lost, it is all about the manager. Look at Mourinho, he was great when he wore nice suits and had hair and shaved. Now he looks like he lives under a pier and steals fish from tourists on fishing excursions in Faro, which is why his teams cant beat Brighton. Also, how the hell did Iceland make the A league????




League A

Group 1: France, Germany, Netherlands

Group 2: Belgium, Iceland, Switzerland

Group 3: Italy, Poland, Portugal

Group 4: Croatia, England, Spain

League B

Group 1: Czech Republic, Slovakia, Ukraine

Group 2: Russia, Sweden, Turkey

Group 3: Austria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Northern Ireland

Group 4: Denmark, Republic of Ireland, Wales

League C

Group 1: Albania, Israel, Scotland

Group 2: Estonia, Finland, Greece, Hungary

Group 3: Bulgaria, Cyprus, Norway, Slovenia

Group 4: Lithuania, Montenegro, Romania, Serbia

League D

Group 1: Andorra, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Latvia

Group 2: Belarus, Luxembourg, Moldova, San Marino

Group 3: Azerbaijan, Faroe Islands, Kosovo, Malta

Group 4: Armenia, Macedonia, Gibraltar Liechtenstein
HASM
2018-09-04 20:02:08 UTC
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Also, how the hell did Iceland make the A league????
FIFA (pseudo) rankings?
ixion martin - GdBx
2018-09-04 20:17:24 UTC
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Post by Binder Dundat
Also, how the hell did Iceland make the A league????
FIFA (pseudo) rankings?
No, UEFA ranking.
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ixion martin - GdBx
2018-09-04 20:15:50 UTC
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The most exciting thing to happen in European Football since
the advent of the Offside rule starts on Thursday.
bwahahahaha !
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Jesus Petry
2018-09-10 21:25:20 UTC
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Cool thing: Andorra unbeaten after two games!

Tchau!
Jesus Petry
ixion martin - GdBx
2018-09-10 23:21:06 UTC
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Cool thing: Andorra unbeaten after two games!
For the first time ever, we saw three players of Andorra in the
opposition penalty box AT THE SAME TIME ! Astonishing !
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MH
2018-09-10 23:27:11 UTC
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Post by Jesus Petry
Cool thing: Andorra unbeaten after two games!
other cool things:

Wins for Kosovo, Luxembourg, Montenegro, draw for Malta , etc.

Playing teams closer to their own ability level more regularly in
competitive matches can't be bad for these teams.

There are going to be some pretty ignominious relegations from leagues A
and B, or so it looks so far. Groups certainly don't look to be the
same average strength.
Post by Jesus Petry
Tchau!
Jesus Petry
Binder Dundat
2018-09-11 03:16:02 UTC
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Post by Jesus Petry
Cool thing: Andorra unbeaten after two games!
Wins for Kosovo, Luxembourg, Montenegro, draw for Malta , etc.
Montenegro should not be a surprise, not for me at least.
Post by MH
Playing teams closer to their own ability level more regularly in
competitive matches can't be bad for these teams.
There are going to be some pretty ignominious relegations from leagues A
and B, or so it looks so far. Groups certainly don't look to be the
same average strength.
I watched the Ronaldoless Portugal have an easy time against a makeshift Italy, it was a totally different team than played Poland a few days ago, not that it was much worse. So with that in mind I will make predictions of the going ups and downs. This will be fun cus there are so many groups and so many teams which I have not seen play, possibly ever.


League A

Group 1: France, Germany, Netherlands
Dutch going down, Germany may not be able to score goals anymore, but I still think they are better than the Dutch. France wins the inaugural Nations cup in the end.

Group 2: Belgium, Iceland, Switzerland
Iceland goin down like a Lead Zeppelin, Belgium to win the group

Group 3: Italy, Poland, Portugal
Poland looked marginally better than Italy, so Italy to go down. Portugal to the semi finals

Group 4: Croatia, England, Spain
I am going to say England going down. Spain to the semis

League B

Group 1: Czech Republic, Slovakia, Ukraine
Ukraine up Czech down

Group 2: Russia, Sweden, Turkey
Turkey up Sweden down

Group 3: Austria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Northern Ireland
Austria yet to play but, Bosnia up, NIreland down

Group 4: Denmark, Republic of Ireland, Wales
Denmark up Ireland down

League C

Group 1: Albania, Israel, Scotland
Scotland up Albania down

Group 2: Estonia, Finland, Greece, Hungary
Predictions gets tougher in group C
Greece up Estonia down

Group 3: Bulgaria, Cyprus, Norway, Slovenia
Bulgaria up and Norway down. I would normally say Cyprus down, but they beat Slovenia. It was not that long ago that Norway was a FIFA 2nd ranked team and beating teams like Brazil.

Group 4: Lithuania, Montenegro, Romania, Serbia
Serbia up Lithuania down

League D
this league is plain guessing from me and if I am not mistaken the 4 group winners play each other in semi finals and then the final winner goes to the 2020 Euro cup finals? Also, if I am not mistaken, losers of each group are relegated to Oceania nations cup.

Group 1: Andorra, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Latvia
Georgia up

Group 2: Belarus, Luxembourg, Moldova, San Marino
Belarus up

Group 3: Azerbaijan, Faroe Islands, Kosovo, Malta
Kosovo up

Group 4: Armenia, Macedonia, Gibraltar Liechtenstein
Macedonia up
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Post by Jesus Petry
Tchau!
Jesus Petry
vedran
2018-09-12 02:20:25 UTC
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Post by Binder Dundat
Group 4: Croatia, England, Spain
I am going to say England going down. Spain to the semis
After today's result I think it's pretty sure we (Croatia) are
going down.
We are playing vs England next month without a crowd,
England very motivated to get revenge, Dalic is building a new team,
although not many players left, Mandzukic is a huge miss (quit NT),
but Kramaric and Rebic will hopefully recover.
Our current goalkeeper isn't promising at all.

The only thing I could count on is this slap in the face from Spain,
might wake up the team.
vedran
2018-09-12 02:43:07 UTC
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Group 4: Lithuania, Montenegro, Romania, Serbia
Serbia up
This should be very close between Serbia and Montenegro, you never
know with these local derbies.
The atmosphere in Serbian football is pretty bad, I watched
some of the match with Romania, they could have lost that easily,
you never know what can happen since coach Krstajic is changing
lineup all the time and some players refused to play while he is
a coach.
I'd say Montenegro, especially if Jovetic plays, looks like
he isn't injured anymore.
vedran
2018-09-12 01:53:25 UTC
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The most exciting thing to happen in European Football since the advent of the Offside rule starts on Thursday.
Don't have much time to watch football, but you can't escape headlines
when you lose 6:0 and teasing from all the neighbors, of course.

Reminded me to check the group, thought there would be more posts about
this competition.

This is our worst defeat in a 28 year old history, previously was
5:1 vs England.

And this is what we call Balkan's mentality in it's purest form, players
barely gave a crap, the approach was semi friendly, semi competitive,
until Vrsaljko got injured, then everything completely fell apart,
didn't help that Dalic put a player who never played in that
(RB) position (Rog from Napoli, barely gets any minutes).

Some new players not up to the task, some injured, opponent highly
motivated to make up for the bad result from the WC and this is
what you get. Players refused to give interviews after the match :/
Maybe they care after all :D

England will be even more motivated, if something doesn't change
fast, there will another (heavy) defeat next month. Not that this
competition really matters, but still...

Next month's match will be played in Rijeka, stadium will be empty,
there were so many punishments from UEFA I can't even remember what to
lead to that, considering our form maybe this isn't that bad after all :)
Bruce Scott
2018-09-12 16:20:58 UTC
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[...] (heavy) defeat next month. Not that this
competition really matters, but still...
Yeah, you don't want to lose like that, even in a friendly.
We both played B teams but Mexico sure didn't want to lose to
the US and there was a lot of "stuff" which led to a red card on
a super-silly foul.
Next month's match will be played in Rijeka, stadium will be empty,
there were so many punishments from UEFA I can't even remember what to
lead to that, considering our form maybe this isn't that bad after all :)
:-))) I still remember watching the match in Italy with a bunch of
people in Split in 2014... at 75' the flare cannon went off and the
Italian fans had no clue why :-)
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vedran
2018-09-13 15:25:56 UTC
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:-))) I still remember watching the match in Italy with a bunch of
people in Split in 2014... at 75' the flare cannon went off and the
Italian fans had no clue why :-)
Ah yes... you reminded me, but had to look up for details.
This was 3 years ago, I thought we already did our punishment,
but it's one more match.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/euro-2016/11759063/Croatia-fined-and-deducted-point-for-swastika-on-pitch-in-Euro-2016-qualifier-against-Italy.html

Those who made swastika certainly know what UEFA doesn't want to see :)
It's all about ongoing war with our FA because of our corrupted domestic
league, some referees were finally convicted not long ago, in 2014.

Last time when national team was in Split and the atmosphere was positive
was back in 1995 against Italy and that was the best atmosphere national
team ever had, just watch the beginning of this video



But then Split was avoided for 16 years, Georgia played on Poljud in 2011.
They had some friendlies, Brazil, Holland... but no official competitive
match.
It's highly probable officials from FA and players would get booed :)

Split is still being avoided although players want to play there, therefore
there are still many people who enjoy every time national team loses.
Bruce Scott
2018-09-14 01:52:33 UTC
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[...]
Split is still being avoided although players want to play there, therefore
there are still many people who enjoy every time national team loses.
I can imagine... the fans in the pub in Split I was in laughed themselves
pretty good as we watched on TV... it was a nice wine bar. I had already
heard the 75' plans during the first match, which I saw from Germany some
months before that visit to Split.

The Electrotechnik faculty there is in a good location... I hope to
get back there some time.
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vedran
2018-09-14 23:43:18 UTC
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I can imagine... the fans in the pub in Split I was in laughed themselves
pretty good as we watched on TV... it was a nice wine bar. I had already
heard the 75' plans during the first match, which I saw from Germany some
months before that visit to Split.
Just for the record, I'm highly against these things, their goal was
to expel national team from qualifications and imagine if they
succeeded in qualifications for the WC, nothing of this summer would happen.
There were talks before some matches (Ukraine away I believe) something
would happen,
but luckily it didn't.

It's pretty stupid to carry domestic problems to other countries
(and possibly endangering people), those should be solved at home and
nowhere else.
Binder Dundat
2018-11-15 13:23:55 UTC
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It's baaaaakk, the Nations league is back, again, seems to be back every few weeks. I dont know if it is just me, but seems to be a lot of international breaks this season. I assume due to this Nations league thing, or is this the normal rate of international breaks for this time of year? I am not sure if this is the last game day of the group stage or not, such is the complexity of the Nations league.

Now, the question on most peoples mind, "is the Nations League a real thing" or is this a fake thing like Global warming, gun crimes and Racism (I watch a lot of American tv, so do not get all the fake news most of you in the impoverished, ill informed, backwards world get). Is this a real competition or just glorified friendlies set up in such a way to make people think this is a meaningful, real, fulfilled competition. Ohhh, I cant wait to see the trophy presentation!

I assume UEFA make more money from these games then they did from the old, friendly games, that meant nothing and were of so little consequence, they did not even belong to a group or competition or have a trophy presentation.

I think the positives are that you have like-tabled teams playing each other -except for Germany, but that will soon be remedied- no more San Marino vs Spain games. But, you also dont get as many, if any, inter continental games anymore. For all Europeans know, Palau may now have a super team that will challenge for the next WC, but they cant know, they have to play vs teams not only of the same alleged ability, but of the same alleged continent.

Honestly, for me, outside of the steady,continuing demise of the German National team, the most interesting thing to come from all this Nations League is Gibraltar winning not one, but two games and they wont even win their group! That is the biggest thing I can think of from watching the first four matchdays. I suppose if I was Dutch or English, it would be getting me excited, but it is for that reason, that I have to think this thing is fake. England and the Netherlands doing well in a competition???? WTF!!! Gotta be fake, like all this alleged hatred in the world towards immigrants, gays, women, well just about anyone who is different and by different I mean, not like me (like fuck, even Brazil is voting in these fear mongering clowns, used to just be Austrians, Dutch and French). That is the thing too, a thing is fake if it does not fit your agenda or if you are not doing well in it. So, Germans could say every World Cup outside of 1954, 1974, 1990 and 2014 were all fake and that would be real news!

Game day of this fake thing starts today and I think ends next Wednesday

Matchday 5.1

Niederlande - Frankreich


Slowakei - Ukraine


Wales - Dänemark


Zypern - Bulgarien


Slowenien - Norwegen


Gibraltar - Armenien


Liechtenstein - Mazedonien
Binder Dundat
2018-11-16 02:46:47 UTC
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It's baaaaakk, the Nations league is back, again, seems to be back every few weeks. I dont know if it is just me, but seems to be a lot of international breaks this season. I assume due to this Nations league thing, or is this the normal rate of international breaks for this time of year? I am not sure if this is the last game day of the group stage or not, such is the complexity of the Nations league.
Now, the question on most peoples mind, "is the Nations League a real thing" or is this a fake thing like Global warming, gun crimes and Racism (I watch a lot of American tv, so do not get all the fake news most of you in the impoverished, ill informed, backwards world get). Is this a real competition or just glorified friendlies set up in such a way to make people think this is a meaningful, real, fulfilled competition. Ohhh, I cant wait to see the trophy presentation!
I assume UEFA make more money from these games then they did from the old, friendly games, that meant nothing and were of so little consequence, they did not even belong to a group or competition or have a trophy presentation.
I think the positives are that you have like-tabled teams playing each other -except for Germany, but that will soon be remedied- no more San Marino vs Spain games. But, you also dont get as many, if any, inter continental games anymore. For all Europeans know, Palau may now have a super team that will challenge for the next WC, but they cant know, they have to play vs teams not only of the same alleged ability, but of the same alleged continent.
Honestly, for me, outside of the steady,continuing demise of the German National team, the most interesting thing to come from all this Nations League is Gibraltar winning not one, but two games and they wont even win their group! That is the biggest thing I can think of from watching the first four matchdays. I suppose if I was Dutch or English, it would be getting me excited, but it is for that reason, that I have to think this thing is fake. England and the Netherlands doing well in a competition???? WTF!!! Gotta be fake, like all this alleged hatred in the world towards immigrants, gays, women, well just about anyone who is different and by different I mean, not like me (like fuck, even Brazil is voting in these fear mongering clowns, used to just be Austrians, Dutch and French). That is the thing too, a thing is fake if it does not fit your agenda or if you are not doing well in it. So, Germans could say every World Cup outside of 1954, 1974, 1990 and 2014 were all fake and that would be real news!
Game day of this fake thing starts today and I think ends next Wednesday
Matchday 5.1
Niederlande - Frankreich
Slowakei - Ukraine
Wales - Dänemark
Zypern - Bulgarien
Slowenien - Norwegen
Gibraltar - Armenien
Liechtenstein - Mazedonien
The above is actually matchday 5.2.

Here are the results from 5.1
Kroatien
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Spanien
3:2 (0:0)

A very good game and a triumph for not only Croatia, but for the Nations League and those who believe it is a real thing, even had an edge about it.


Belgien
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Island
2:0 (0:0)


Österreich
-

Bosnien-Herzegowina
0:0 (0:0)


Griechenland
-

Finnland
1:0 (1:0)


Ungarn
-

Estland
2:0 (1:0)


Andorra
-

Georgien
1:1 (0:1)


San Marino
-

Moldawien
0:1 (0:0)


Luxemburg
-

Weißrussland
0:2 (0:1)


Kasachstan
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Lettland
1:1 (1:0)
Jesper Lauridsen
2018-11-16 09:23:46 UTC
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Here are the results from 5.1
Kroatien
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Spanien
3:2 (0:0)
A very good game and a triumph for not only Croatia, but for the Nations League and those who believe it is a real thing, even had an edge about it.
Bizarre results from Spain in this tournament. Beat England at Wembley,
then lose at home. Thrash Croatia, then lose to them.

Croatia can now win the group by beating England. A draw with goals in it
will see England relegated, otherwise it's Croatia.
vedran
2018-11-16 14:39:40 UTC
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Croatia can now win the group by beating England. A draw with goals in it
will see England relegated, otherwise it's Croatia.
Won't be lying, this win yesterday felt so good, made up for that loss
big time.
We beat the mighty Spain and most of the talk after the game was about
selfish Kramaric.

Maybe I'm biased, but I'd never call that penalty on Vrsaljko
https://streamja.com/Bv72
if it happened on the other side, it probably wouldn't have been called.

Here are 2nd and 3rd goal from the stands, funny reaction of the crowd
before the first
one when Modric is passing a short ball instead of a cross:
"target Lovren... nooo... why?... wtf... f*ck... c'mon... bravo maestro!
bravo! goaaaal! Bravo Luka!" :)


3rd goal


Now Wembley, extremely hard to get a win there, we did it once, but our
defence was much
better then and England had problems with injuries.

Rakitic got injured, will probably miss the game.
vedran
2018-11-17 00:59:45 UTC
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3rd goal
Just came across this, better perspective


Something we haven't seen live, but commentators said our bench
was pissed about, at 00:27 you can see 2 Spanish players waiting
for counter attack unguarded, all our players didn't listen to bench,
went for the 3rd goal and it payed off.

Crazy matches this year.
Binder Dundat
2018-11-17 09:59:52 UTC
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Upon further examination, I am sorry to state that the Nations league is not real. This thing is so fake, Netherlands, a team that failed to make the World Cup is beating the likes of France and Germany, that would never happen in real life.

Russia, Denmark, Ukrania going into group A, Germany in Group B, come on, that is soooo fake! I just watched 20 minutes of the Russia v Germany game and it was sooo bad, Germany was sooo bad, yet it was 3-0 for them with the likes of Serge Gnarby and Leroy Sane scoring. Only in a fake league would the likes of Leroy Sane or Serge Gnarby score goals.

How about the top scorer of this fake competition, none of you would know who it is, why would you. A fake Armenian guy, with a fake name Yura Movsisyan, who -you cant make this shit up-now get this for fake news, plays for the.............................................................



Chicago Fire in the MLS, how can I take this fricking thing seriously?????
vedran
2018-11-17 11:42:43 UTC
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3rd goal
Just came across this, better perspective
http://youtu.be/GV38hQFs8lI
Already deleted, so I uploaded it on GD
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1CR6pdcHjOdqvYyGFw46eJc5I4UMXLIV1
ixion martin - GdBx
2018-11-17 18:02:20 UTC
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Maybe I'm biased, but I'd never call that penalty on Vrsaljko
https://streamja.com/Bv72
if it happened on the other side, it probably wouldn't have
been called.
It's a hard penalty.
Rules say that the hand mesut be deliberate. Unlike "not
deliberate" means to keep hands on corpse, I don't see how it
can be deliberate (contrary to Perisic's hand last july ;))...

Most of all, the referee waits the second part of the action to
give penalty.
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vedran
2018-11-17 20:16:21 UTC
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It's a hard penalty.
Rules say that the hand mesut be deliberate. Unlike "not deliberate"
means to keep hands on corpse, I don't see how it can be deliberate
(contrary to Perisic's hand last july ;))...
Didn't need a reminder, it's still fresh, try again in 50 years :P

While you can't blame ref much for Perisic handball, we got so many
BS calls over the years against big teams, it's ridiculous.
And there is no VAR here... although you never know what referee
might see even with VAR.
ixion martin - GdBx
2018-11-18 00:18:47 UTC
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While you can't blame ref much for Perisic handball, we got
so many BS calls over the years against big teams, it's
ridiculous.
It's football. :(
Post by vedran
And there is no VAR here... although you never know what
referee might see even with VAR.
Good point for you...

Maybe Croatia and Belgium will be at the final four and not
France... Like a revenge ;).
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vedran
2018-11-18 11:08:25 UTC
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Maybe Croatia and Belgium will be at the final four and not France...
Like a revenge ;).
No revenge man, what happens on WC, stays on WC :)
It could have been a lot less since we went through on penalties twice.
We have so many haters who just couldn't wait that we lose so they could
piss on our result,
I bet it's the same thing with France.

As for Nations League, I doubt we'll go to finals, Rakitic is too
important, got injured, also his replacement Kovacic has some problems
and won't play, although he's been poor for NT and that might be a good
news.
Looks like Vlasic will start, he's been sent from Everton to CSKA and
has something
to prove.
Jedvaj who scored 2 goals vs Spain is not a proper FB and last time we
played vs England without a proper FB we got trashed 5:1.
There is only one good thing, no Trippier this time.
ixion martin - GdBx
2018-11-18 13:05:41 UTC
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Maybe Croatia and Belgium will be at the final four and not
France... Like a revenge ;).
No revenge man, what happens on WC, stays on WC :)
It could have been a lot less since we went through on
penalties twice.
We have so many haters who just couldn't wait that we lose so
they could piss on our result,
I bet it's the same thing with France.
You cannot imagine... Inclunding in France ! :(.
Post by vedran
As for Nations League, I doubt we'll go to finals, Rakitic is
too important, got injured, also his replacement Kovacic has
some problems and won't play, although he's been poor for NT
and that might be a good news.
Looks like Vlasic will start, he's been sent from Everton to
CSKA and has something to prove.
Jedvaj who scored 2 goals vs Spain is not a proper FB and
last time we played vs England without a proper FB we got
trashed 5:1.
There is only one good thing, no Trippier this time.
You lost 6-0 in Spain, noone could imagine before the return
leg you could get a draw... And you won.
Before WC semi-finals, everyone asked who would face England in
final. And you won.
Before WC final, everyone said you were too tired and you would
be overcomen... You finally lost, but your first halftime
showed your team could be surprising and we were a little bit
lucky.

Wait and see, but I trust your team.
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Binder Dundat
2018-11-18 13:46:42 UTC
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Maybe Croatia and Belgium will be at the final four and not
France... Like a revenge ;).
No revenge man, what happens on WC, stays on WC :)
It could have been a lot less since we went through on
penalties twice.
We have so many haters who just couldn't wait that we lose so
they could piss on our result,
I bet it's the same thing with France.
You cannot imagine... Inclunding in France ! :(.
Post by vedran
As for Nations League, I doubt we'll go to finals, Rakitic is
too important, got injured, also his replacement Kovacic has
some problems and won't play, although he's been poor for NT
and that might be a good news.
Looks like Vlasic will start, he's been sent from Everton to
CSKA and has something to prove.
Jedvaj who scored 2 goals vs Spain is not a proper FB and
last time we played vs England without a proper FB we got
trashed 5:1.
There is only one good thing, no Trippier this time.
You lost 6-0 in Spain, noone could imagine before the return
leg you could get a draw... And you won.
Before WC semi-finals, everyone asked who would face England in
final. And you won.
Before WC final, everyone said you were too tired and you would
be overcomen... You finally lost, but your first halftime
showed your team could be surprising and we were a little bit
lucky.
Wait and see, but I trust your team.
--
Ixion
Paris sort piteusement de la Coupe d'Europe.
Pas de doute, c'est bien un club Français
Geeez, you two should get a room, in a Bulgarian hotel.

Big day for the English, who now love international football again and all it takes was semi final in a WC and a chance to win something in the Nations league thing. No worries though, should the Limeys lose today and get relegated to tier B, they will hate internationals again. To be fair , they do have some exciting young players, especially in attack, so they are good to watch.

Just dont like the early morning kick off. Can not believe that the European Nations league is not taking North American time zones into consideration.


Portugal. the team, not .the man, are through to the Nations League finals, not sure what that means, or what that does, but they are through.

I think these are the results from match day 5.3 or is it 5.4 or is 5.4 actually 6.1 and if I disregard the double games on one match day, it actually should be 3.3.

Italien - Portugal 0:0 (0:0)

Albanien - Schottland 0:4 (0:2)

Rumänien - Litauen 3:0 (1:0)

Türkei - Schweden 0:1 (0:0)

Malta - Kosovo 0:5 (0:1)

Aserbaidschan - Färöer 2:0 (2:0)

Serbien - Montenegro 2:1 (2:0)
Binder Dundat
2018-11-18 14:18:34 UTC
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The English gong with a totally different line up from the game vs USA, more experienced, to handle these tough nervy games. Except that they almost gave up a nervy goal within minutes of kick off. Since then they have found their nerve and come back into the game, Harry Kane with a dozen or so chances to score.

But it still remains
International football is the greatest thing ever 0 - 0 Why do we have these useless international game breaks instead of WWEPL games
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Post by ixion martin - GdBx
Post by vedran
Post by ixion martin - GdBx
Maybe Croatia and Belgium will be at the final four and not
France... Like a revenge ;).
No revenge man, what happens on WC, stays on WC :)
It could have been a lot less since we went through on
penalties twice.
We have so many haters who just couldn't wait that we lose so
they could piss on our result,
I bet it's the same thing with France.
You cannot imagine... Inclunding in France ! :(.
Post by vedran
As for Nations League, I doubt we'll go to finals, Rakitic is
too important, got injured, also his replacement Kovacic has
some problems and won't play, although he's been poor for NT
and that might be a good news.
Looks like Vlasic will start, he's been sent from Everton to
CSKA and has something to prove.
Jedvaj who scored 2 goals vs Spain is not a proper FB and
last time we played vs England without a proper FB we got
trashed 5:1.
There is only one good thing, no Trippier this time.
You lost 6-0 in Spain, noone could imagine before the return
leg you could get a draw... And you won.
Before WC semi-finals, everyone asked who would face England in
final. And you won.
Before WC final, everyone said you were too tired and you would
be overcomen... You finally lost, but your first halftime
showed your team could be surprising and we were a little bit
lucky.
Wait and see, but I trust your team.
--
Ixion
Paris sort piteusement de la Coupe d'Europe.
Pas de doute, c'est bien un club Français
Geeez, you two should get a room, in a Bulgarian hotel.
Big day for the English, who now love international football again and all it takes was semi final in a WC and a chance to win something in the Nations league thing. No worries though, should the Limeys lose today and get relegated to tier B, they will hate internationals again. To be fair , they do have some exciting young players, especially in attack, so they are good to watch.
Just dont like the early morning kick off. Can not believe that the European Nations league is not taking North American time zones into consideration.
Portugal. the team, not .the man, are through to the Nations League finals, not sure what that means, or what that does, but they are through.
I think these are the results from match day 5.3 or is it 5.4 or is 5.4 actually 6.1 and if I disregard the double games on one match day, it actually should be 3.3.
Italien - Portugal 0:0 (0:0)
Albanien - Schottland 0:4 (0:2)
Rumänien - Litauen 3:0 (1:0)
Türkei - Schweden 0:1 (0:0)
Malta - Kosovo 0:5 (0:1)
Aserbaidschan - Färöer 2:0 (2:0)
Serbien - Montenegro 2:1 (2:0)
Binder Dundat
2018-11-18 15:22:26 UTC
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I love the national team and international football 0 - 1 Why bother I just want club football

'arry should have scored in the first half, for the most part the English are doing all the attacking, but the Croats of course score first. I think a scoring draw relegates England?
Post by Binder Dundat
The English gong with a totally different line up from the game vs USA, more experienced, to handle these tough nervy games. Except that they almost gave up a nervy goal within minutes of kick off. Since then they have found their nerve and come back into the game, Harry Kane with a dozen or so chances to score.
But it still remains
International football is the greatest thing ever 0 - 0 Why do we have these useless international game breaks instead of WWEPL games
Post by Binder Dundat
Post by ixion martin - GdBx
Post by vedran
Post by ixion martin - GdBx
Maybe Croatia and Belgium will be at the final four and not
France... Like a revenge ;).
No revenge man, what happens on WC, stays on WC :)
It could have been a lot less since we went through on
penalties twice.
We have so many haters who just couldn't wait that we lose so
they could piss on our result,
I bet it's the same thing with France.
You cannot imagine... Inclunding in France ! :(.
Post by vedran
As for Nations League, I doubt we'll go to finals, Rakitic is
too important, got injured, also his replacement Kovacic has
some problems and won't play, although he's been poor for NT
and that might be a good news.
Looks like Vlasic will start, he's been sent from Everton to
CSKA and has something to prove.
Jedvaj who scored 2 goals vs Spain is not a proper FB and
last time we played vs England without a proper FB we got
trashed 5:1.
There is only one good thing, no Trippier this time.
You lost 6-0 in Spain, noone could imagine before the return
leg you could get a draw... And you won.
Before WC semi-finals, everyone asked who would face England in
final. And you won.
Before WC final, everyone said you were too tired and you would
be overcomen... You finally lost, but your first halftime
showed your team could be surprising and we were a little bit
lucky.
Wait and see, but I trust your team.
--
Ixion
Paris sort piteusement de la Coupe d'Europe.
Pas de doute, c'est bien un club Français
Geeez, you two should get a room, in a Bulgarian hotel.
Big day for the English, who now love international football again and all it takes was semi final in a WC and a chance to win something in the Nations league thing. No worries though, should the Limeys lose today and get relegated to tier B, they will hate internationals again. To be fair , they do have some exciting young players, especially in attack, so they are good to watch.
Just dont like the early morning kick off. Can not believe that the European Nations league is not taking North American time zones into consideration.
Portugal. the team, not .the man, are through to the Nations League finals, not sure what that means, or what that does, but they are through.
I think these are the results from match day 5.3 or is it 5.4 or is 5.4 actually 6.1 and if I disregard the double games on one match day, it actually should be 3.3.
Italien - Portugal 0:0 (0:0)
Albanien - Schottland 0:4 (0:2)
Rumänien - Litauen 3:0 (1:0)
Türkei - Schweden 0:1 (0:0)
Malta - Kosovo 0:5 (0:1)
Aserbaidschan - Färöer 2:0 (2:0)
Serbien - Montenegro 2:1 (2:0)
Binder Dundat
2018-11-18 15:56:50 UTC
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So Jaydon Sancho single-handedly won this game for "Club football sucks and International football is the greatest thing in the universe"? Who wudda thunk it.

Just as incredible, is I now live in a world where Germans hate the national team and English love it.
Post by Binder Dundat
I love the national team and international football 0 - 1 Why bother I just want club football
'arry should have scored in the first half, for the most part the English are doing all the attacking, but the Croats of course score first. I think a scoring draw relegates England?
Post by Binder Dundat
The English gong with a totally different line up from the game vs USA, more experienced, to handle these tough nervy games. Except that they almost gave up a nervy goal within minutes of kick off. Since then they have found their nerve and come back into the game, Harry Kane with a dozen or so chances to score.
But it still remains
International football is the greatest thing ever 0 - 0 Why do we have these useless international game breaks instead of WWEPL games
Post by Binder Dundat
Post by ixion martin - GdBx
Post by vedran
Post by ixion martin - GdBx
Maybe Croatia and Belgium will be at the final four and not
France... Like a revenge ;).
No revenge man, what happens on WC, stays on WC :)
It could have been a lot less since we went through on
penalties twice.
We have so many haters who just couldn't wait that we lose so
they could piss on our result,
I bet it's the same thing with France.
You cannot imagine... Inclunding in France ! :(.
Post by vedran
As for Nations League, I doubt we'll go to finals, Rakitic is
too important, got injured, also his replacement Kovacic has
some problems and won't play, although he's been poor for NT
and that might be a good news.
Looks like Vlasic will start, he's been sent from Everton to
CSKA and has something to prove.
Jedvaj who scored 2 goals vs Spain is not a proper FB and
last time we played vs England without a proper FB we got
trashed 5:1.
There is only one good thing, no Trippier this time.
You lost 6-0 in Spain, noone could imagine before the return
leg you could get a draw... And you won.
Before WC semi-finals, everyone asked who would face England in
final. And you won.
Before WC final, everyone said you were too tired and you would
be overcomen... You finally lost, but your first halftime
showed your team could be surprising and we were a little bit
lucky.
Wait and see, but I trust your team.
--
Ixion
Paris sort piteusement de la Coupe d'Europe.
Pas de doute, c'est bien un club Français
Geeez, you two should get a room, in a Bulgarian hotel.
Big day for the English, who now love international football again and all it takes was semi final in a WC and a chance to win something in the Nations league thing. No worries though, should the Limeys lose today and get relegated to tier B, they will hate internationals again. To be fair , they do have some exciting young players, especially in attack, so they are good to watch.
Just dont like the early morning kick off. Can not believe that the European Nations league is not taking North American time zones into consideration.
Portugal. the team, not .the man, are through to the Nations League finals, not sure what that means, or what that does, but they are through.
I think these are the results from match day 5.3 or is it 5.4 or is 5.4 actually 6.1 and if I disregard the double games on one match day, it actually should be 3.3.
Italien - Portugal 0:0 (0:0)
Albanien - Schottland 0:4 (0:2)
Rumänien - Litauen 3:0 (1:0)
Türkei - Schweden 0:1 (0:0)
Malta - Kosovo 0:5 (0:1)
Aserbaidschan - Färöer 2:0 (2:0)
Serbien - Montenegro 2:1 (2:0)
vedran
2018-11-18 15:57:34 UTC
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Wait and see, but I trust your team.
2 set pieces... losing the stupid way.
But ok, better now than on the WC, given all the circumstances
we put up a good fight.

Wouldn't bet on this England in the final 4, that's for sure.
Werner Pichler
2018-11-18 16:14:00 UTC
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Post by ixion martin - GdBx
Wait and see, but I trust your team.
2 set pieces... losing the stupid way.
But ok, better now than on the WC, given all the circumstances
we put up a good fight.
Entertaining match. Much better than a Meaningless Friendly (TM) with half the team subbed out
in the second half would have been.

So far I consider the Nations League a success. It clearly already means something, to players
and fans.

Ciao,
Werner
Binder Dundat
2018-11-18 16:55:05 UTC
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Post by ixion martin - GdBx
Wait and see, but I trust your team.
2 set pieces... losing the stupid way.
But ok, better now than on the WC, given all the circumstances
we put up a good fight.
Entertaining match. Much better than a Meaningless Friendly (TM) with half the team subbed out
in the second half would have been.
You must have missed the Brazil v Uruguay meaningless friendly, the most "full blooded" game I watched this week.
Post by Werner Pichler
So far I consider the Nations League a success. It clearly already means something, to players
and fans.
To some, yes.
Post by Werner Pichler
Ciao,
Werner
a***@hotmail.com
2018-11-18 17:29:23 UTC
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Wait and see, but I trust your team.
2 set pieces... losing the stupid way.
But ok, better now than on the WC, given all the circumstances
we put up a good fight.
Entertaining match. Much better than a Meaningless Friendly (TM) with half the team subbed out
in the second half would have been.
You must have missed the Brazil v Uruguay meaningless friendly, the most "full blooded" game I watched this week.
Another example of, dare I say, the savagery sometimes shown by Latin American teams against the referee. Just like the Colombians almost lynched Matt Geiger in the WC, the Uruguayans went to town on Craig Pawson (granted the penalty might have been incorrect), with at least three players putting hands on Pawson's body during the protests. Pawson is a weak ref otherwise multiple yellow cards, and maybe even a red, should have flown. It was disgraceful. How FIFA permits this kind of disrespect is beyond me.
a***@hotmail.com
2018-11-18 17:17:45 UTC
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Post by vedran
Post by ixion martin - GdBx
Wait and see, but I trust your team.
2 set pieces... losing the stupid way.
But ok, better now than on the WC, given all the circumstances
we put up a good fight.
Entertaining match. Much better than a Meaningless Friendly (TM) with half the team subbed out
in the second half would have been.
So far I consider the Nations League a success. It clearly already means something, to players
and fans.
Agreed. It has been unexpectedly entertaining. Give players something to play for and their natural competitive instincts will come out. Plus there's the added incentive as a safety net for European Championships qualification.
vedran
2018-11-18 17:55:03 UTC
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Agreed. It has been unexpectedly entertaining.
Actually, it was quite expected since almost all matches between
England and Croatia were pretty fun, will reply to other post later.
Binder Dundat
2018-11-18 19:48:14 UTC
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Ok, the third semifinalist of the A-list teams will be either Belgium or Switzerland. It all points to Belgium, unless the Swiss win by two goals or win and keep Belgium from scoring, I think that is how it works?

You never know, the Swiss are at home and can sometimes pull of a surprise.
Binder Dundat
2018-11-18 19:51:48 UTC
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Ok, the third semifinalist of the A-list teams will be either Belgium or Switzerland. It all points to Belgium, unless the Swiss win by two goals or win and keep Belgium from scoring, I think that is how it works?
You never know, the Swiss are at home and can sometimes pull of a surprise.
Not this time, the other Hazard scores within 66 seconds of kick off.
Binder Dundat
2018-11-18 20:35:10 UTC
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Ok, the third semifinalist of the A-list teams will be either Belgium or Switzerland. It all points to Belgium, unless the Swiss win by two goals or win and keep Belgium from scoring, I think that is how it works?
You never know, the Swiss are at home and can sometimes pull of a surprise.
Not this time, the other Hazard scores within 66 seconds of kick off.
I dont know if this game a positive for the Nations league is real or not? It is definitely a positive for the Nations league is exciting and unpredictable.

Belgium go ahead to a 2-0 lead and it seems they are through to the A-list finals, but the Swiss have come back and scored three and we are still in the first half.
a***@hotmail.com
2018-11-18 16:59:41 UTC
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Wait and see, but I trust your team.
2 set pieces... losing the stupid way.
Indeed. England had to do it the ugly way. But no one can complain that the result wasn't fair, considering how England were consistently carving up Croatia in the 1st half (without the end product though) and how fortuitous Croatia's own goal was.
Post by vedran
But ok, better now than on the WC, given all the circumstances
we put up a good fight.
Wouldn't bet on this England in the final 4, that's for sure.
Why is that? They are certainly capable of pulling off results, as shown against Spain and Croatia.
vedran
2018-11-18 23:41:35 UTC
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Indeed. England had to do it the ugly way. But no one can complain that the result wasn't fair, considering how England were consistently carving up Croatia in the 1st half (without the end product though) and how fortuitous Croatia's own goal was.
In the end it's all about the end product, I could write all kinds of
excuses, Jedvaj was
playing out of his position, a hole of the left side, later Vrsaljko on
the right side got injured.
I wouldn't even mind that much if they scored from any of those chances
in the
first half, but after we eventually scored, we had more than enough chances
to kill the game from the counters, didn't take them, got punished,
similar scenario as in the WC, just the opposite way.
They gave a lot in Spain match, not much time to recover, Perisic
especially looked fatigued.
No doubt England overall better, but it's not like they had 100% chances
in the 2nd half until those set pieces.
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Why is that? They are certainly capable of pulling off results, as shown against Spain and Croatia.
OK, here's the thing and I'll be quite frank, this is me being bitter
because
there are 3 things you don't want to do

1. lose to England
2. lose in a stupid way
and especially not
3. lose to England in such a stupid way

I think it's safe to say the amount of diss we took from England
fans, pundits, whoever... over the past 14 years since we played our
first competitive
match on EURO 2004 is far bigger than the diss of all the other fans
combined.

Back then I never thought we'd actually meet that much and have some
kind of rivalry...
and after all it's hard to keep up when you are a small nation, there is
no reason why 4 mil. people nation with highly corrupted football
would stay competitive all these years, at least qualifying almost all
the time and being a dark horse on tournaments.
We could be on the level of... idk, maybe Czech Republic, they had their
years of glory,
but more than struggling now.

After first match with England such atmosphere was created that you
don't wanna lose to England even in curling.
But all that diss turned into extra motivation for kicking them out of
EURO 2008.
Before WC semifinal even Goran Ivanisevic said: "you can lose to anyone,
just not England" :)
https://sport.hrt.hr/451580/2018fifaworldcup/ivaniseviceva-poruka-vatrenima-mozemo-izgubiti-od-bilo-koga-samo-ne-od-engleza
So, all these feelings are still present, but it's somewhat easier to
take the loss after the WC :)

Given all the surprises in NL, I guess even England... nah, they'll
bottle it like
they always do.
vedran
2018-11-19 03:29:56 UTC
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I think it's safe to say the amount of diss we took from England
fans, pundits, whoever... over the past 14 years since we played our
first competitive
match on EURO 2004 is far bigger than the diss of all the other fans
combined.
Of course, let's not forget our dear neighbors Serbs, right now there
are 609
comments on our loss on their most popular portal

https://www.b92.net/sport/fudbal/vesti.php?yyyy=2018&mm=11&dd=18&nav_id=1470992

For comparison, here is a page for their own match with Montenegro
https://www.b92.net/sport/fudbal/vesti.php?yyyy=2018&mm=11&dd=17&nav_id=1470646

479 comments. No further comment needed.
anders t
2018-11-18 21:08:47 UTC
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UEFA Nations League has proven to be a fantastic addition to football.
Maybe they could even reformat it slightly and turn it into the EC?
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ixion martin - GdBx
2018-11-18 21:29:16 UTC
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UEFA Nations League has proven to be a fantastic addition to
football.
It's because it's new.
We will see in ten years.
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de France sans jamais jouer à domicile.
A jamais les premiers.
Binder Dundat
2018-11-18 21:37:41 UTC
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When did Shaquiri become the best player in the world?

So England, Portugal, Switzerland and probably Netherlands are the top 4 A list teams.

I dont know if I can take this Nations league seriously, too much weird shit happening.
Werner Pichler
2018-11-19 09:39:27 UTC
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Post by anders t
UEFA Nations League has proven to be a fantastic addition to football.
Maybe they could even reformat it slightly and turn it into the EC?
Well, how could a competition modelled on Unsophisticated Prediction Tiers not
be a success!

Ciao,
Werner
Jesper Lauridsen
2018-11-19 13:44:50 UTC
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UEFA Nations League has proven to be a fantastic addition to football.
Maybe they could even reformat it slightly and turn it into the EC?
Well, how could a competition modelled on Unsophisticated Prediction Tiers not
be a success!
Nations League has balanced matches.
Mark
2018-11-20 08:39:16 UTC
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UEFA Nations League has proven to be a fantastic addition to football.
Maybe they could even reformat it slightly and turn it into the EC?
Well, how could a competition modelled on Unsophisticated Prediction Tiers not
be a success!
Ciao,
Werner
Good point!
Futbolmetrix
2018-11-16 21:43:18 UTC
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Niederlande - Frankreich
FT: 2-0

Netherlands wins the group with a draw against the already relegated Germans. Did I mention that Germany has been relegated?
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2018-11-17 18:03:47 UTC
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Niederlande - Frankreich
FT: 2-0
Undeserved. Should be 4-0 ou 5-0 without a great Lloris.
Netherlands wins the group with a draw against the already
relegated Germans. Did I mention that Germany has been
relegated?
Now we have to be Germany's supporters :).
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Jesper Lauridsen
2018-11-19 13:44:20 UTC
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Niederlande - Frankreich
FT: 2-0
Netherlands wins the group with a draw against the already relegated Germans.
Germany to return France's favour.
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Did I mention that Germany has been relegated?
What's next? Not qualifying for a tournament?
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2018-11-19 20:46:39 UTC
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Niederlande - Frankreich
FT: 2-0
Netherlands wins the group with a draw against the already
relegated Germans.
Germany to return France's favour.
2-0 now.
We can forgive WW1
At 3-0 we will forgive WW2.

But not Sevilla '82, let's not exaggerate. :)
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Pas de doute, c'est bien un club Français
anders t
2018-11-19 21:28:19 UTC
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On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 8:23:58 AM UTC-5, Binder
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Niederlande - Frankreich
FT: 2-0
Netherlands wins the group with a draw against the already
relegated Germans.
Germany to return France's favour.
2-0 now.
We can forgive WW1
At 3-0 we will forgive WW2.
But not Sevilla '82, let's not exaggerate. :)
2-1. COME ON NETHERLANDS!
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anders t
2018-11-19 21:33:55 UTC
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Post by Binder Dundat
Niederlande - Frankreich
FT: 2-0
Netherlands wins the group with a draw against the already
relegated Germans.
Germany to return France's favour.
2-0 now.
We can forgive WW1
At 3-0 we will forgive WW2.
But not Sevilla '82, let's not exaggerate. :)
2-1. COME ON NETHERLANDS!
WIIIIIII!!!!!!!

(I just want drama, no offense, ixion...)
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On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 8:23:58 AM UTC-5,
Post by Binder Dundat
Niederlande - Frankreich
FT: 2-0
Netherlands wins the group with a draw against the
already relegated Germans.
Germany to return France's favour.
2-0 now.
We can forgive WW1
At 3-0 we will forgive WW2.
But not Sevilla '82, let's not exaggerate. :)
2-1. COME ON NETHERLANDS!
WIIIIIII!!!!!!!
(I just want drama, no offense, ixion...)
:)...
German reliability is from no on definitively a legend...
But Dutch's luck may become so...
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Futbolmetrix
2018-11-19 21:39:09 UTC
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2-1. COME ON NETHERLANDS!
2-2. You just have to love the New Germany, so sweet and cuddly!
anders t
2018-11-19 21:41:41 UTC
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Post by anders t
2-1. COME ON NETHERLANDS!
2-2. You just have to love the New Germany, so sweet and cuddly!
This is the real reason why FIFA wants 48 teams already 2022.
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2018-11-19 21:43:38 UTC
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2-1. COME ON NETHERLANDS!
2-2. You just have to love the New Germany, so sweet and cuddly!
Ixion? You OK there buddy?
ixion martin - GdBx
2018-11-19 21:47:46 UTC
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On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 4:39:16 PM UTC-5,
On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 4:28:22 PM UTC-5, anders t
Post by anders t
2-1. COME ON NETHERLANDS!
2-2. You just have to love the New Germany, so sweet and
cuddly!
Ixion? You OK there buddy?
Yes, it's football.
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Ixion
En coupe d'Europe ou en sélection, quand on dit
diplomatiquement que l'arbitre
n'était pas dans un bon soir, c'est toujours la France ou le
club français qui morfle.
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2018-11-19 21:52:20 UTC
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On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 4:39:16 PM UTC-5,
On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 4:28:22 PM UTC-5, anders t
Post by anders t
2-1. COME ON NETHERLANDS!
2-2. You just have to love the New Germany, so sweet and
cuddly!
Ixion? You OK there buddy?
Yes, it's football.
True, and look at the bright side, you could be German.
ixion martin - GdBx
2018-11-19 21:57:41 UTC
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Post by ixion martin - GdBx
On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 4:39:16 PM UTC-5,
On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 4:28:22 PM UTC-5, anders t
Post by anders t
2-1. COME ON NETHERLANDS!
2-2. You just have to love the New Germany, so sweet and
cuddly!
Ixion? You OK there buddy?
Yes, it's football.
True, and look at the bright side, you could be German.
Sure...

But Netherlands is really really lucky for the moment. In
France, they lost 2-1 with one shot, deserving to lose
something like 3-0 or 4-1... In the firt game versus Germany,
they don't deserve more than the draw but win 3-0. And tonight,
they offend the game but save the draw playing only five
minutes...

A lot of people whined/s about French results for ten times
lower than that :-/.
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Ixion
Paris sort piteusement de la Coupe d'Europe.
Pas de doute, c'est bien un club Français
Werner Pichler
2018-11-19 21:52:50 UTC
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2-1. COME ON NETHERLANDS!
2-2. You just have to love the New Germany, so sweet and cuddly!
The sympathetic underdog that fights valiantly and with flourish, but in
the end still succumbs to a more ruthless and cynical opponent!

Ciao,
Werner
anders t
2018-11-19 22:18:13 UTC
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Post by anders t
2-1. COME ON NETHERLANDS!
2-2. You just have to love the New Germany, so sweet and cuddly!
The sympathetic underdog that fights valiantly and with flourish, but in
the end still succumbs to a more ruthless and cynical opponent!
8-D
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Binder Dundat
2018-11-20 04:21:09 UTC
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Did not watch the game, but it once again proves that this nations league thing is just a gimmick for Uefa to lure suckers into watching friendlies and making money. I know you are all idiots and dont get the sport, but come on, 2-0 ahead with 5 mins left and blowing it??? Yeah, not even a weak Kanadian team does that. The truth of the matter is the most fiercely contested game this week was a meaningless friendly, between two South American countries in and English city.
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2018-11-20 06:20:12 UTC
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Did not watch the game, but it once again proves that this
nations league thing is just a gimmick for Uefa to lure
suckers into watching friendlies and making money. I know
you are all idiots and dont get the sport, but come on, 2-0
ahead with 5 mins left and blowing it??? Yeah, not even a
weak Kanadian team does that.
Watching the game, German inexplicably stopped playing from
minute 85. If I were paranoiac (what I'm not), I would say that
Germany wanted to show until minute 85 that they deserved to
win the game but then to make France knocked out.
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Werner Pichler
2018-11-20 08:28:28 UTC
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Post by Binder Dundat
Did not watch the game, but it once again proves that this
nations league thing is just a gimmick for Uefa to lure
suckers into watching friendlies and making money. I know
you are all idiots and dont get the sport, but come on, 2-0
ahead with 5 mins left and blowing it??? Yeah, not even a
weak Kanadian team does that.
Watching the game, German inexplicably stopped playing from
minute 85. If I were paranoiac (what I'm not), I would say that
Germany wanted to show until minute 85 that they deserved to
win the game but then to make France knocked out.
Yes, and instead hand qualification to their dear Dutch friends!

Ciao,
Werner
ixion martin - GdBx
2018-11-20 20:47:18 UTC
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Post by ixion martin - GdBx
Post by Binder Dundat
Did not watch the game, but it once again proves that this
nations league thing is just a gimmick for Uefa to lure
suckers into watching friendlies and making money. I know
you are all idiots and dont get the sport, but come on, 2-0
ahead with 5 mins left and blowing it??? Yeah, not even a
weak Kanadian team does that.
Watching the game, German inexplicably stopped playing from
minute 85. If I were paranoiac (what I'm not), I would say
that Germany wanted to show until minute 85 that they
deserved to win the game but then to make France knocked
out.
Yes, and instead hand qualification to their dear Dutch
friends!
That seems very doubtful, knowing the rivalry between both
countries.
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Ixion
Paris sort piteusement de la Coupe d'Europe.
Pas de doute, c'est bien un club Français
Jesper Lauridsen
2018-09-12 22:23:41 UTC
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The most exciting thing to happen in European Football since the advent of the Offside rule starts on Thursday.
Don't have much time to watch football, but you can't escape headlines
when you lose 6:0 and teasing from all the neighbors, of course.
Reminded me to check the group, thought there would be more posts about
this competition.
It would have been rude to mention such a painful defeat. And we are
very tactful here.

Imagine if you had won the final - the world champions losing by six
goals! That would have been unheard of; like if a multiple champion,
and heavy favourite, had lost by 6 while hosting the cup.
ixion martin - GdBx
2018-09-13 23:48:30 UTC
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The most exciting thing to happen in European Football
since the advent of the Offside rule starts on Thursday.
Don't have much time to watch football, but you can't escape
headlines when you lose 6:0 and teasing from all the
neighbors, of course.
Reminded me to check the group, thought there would be more
posts about this competition.
It would have been rude to mention such a painful defeat. And
we are very tactful here.
Imagine if you had won the final - the world champions losing
by six goals! That would have been unheard of; like if a
multiple champion, and heavy favourite, had lost by 6 while
hosting the cup.
That sounds impossible, no ? :)
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Ixion
Paris sort piteusement de la Coupe d'Europe.
Pas de doute, c'est bien un club Français
vedran
2018-09-14 01:16:23 UTC
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It would have been rude to mention such a painful defeat. And we are
very tactful here.
This could be an internal joke :)
I noticed Croatian fans comforting themselves by mentioning
similar result(s) that happened not that long ago and which
will be remembered for a long time :)
Post by Jesper Lauridsen
Imagine if you had won the final - the world champions losing by six
goals! That would have been unheard of; like if a multiple champion,
and heavy favourite, had lost by 6 while hosting the cup.
I definitely wouldn't call this painful despite the result,
I certainly didn't feel that way, it would be painful if it happened on
a big tournament.

But despite that we didn't win the final, we are still the finalists and
it does leave a bad taste to lose like this not long after the final,
all the mice are out of their holes now saying we shouldn't have
even been there (usually those whose teams won't achieve such results).

I'd rather see my team in the WC final and getting beaten like this in
still unimportant competition than go out in the round of 16 like Spain did.

After 3rd goal, I thought: "ok, it's one of those days,
everything they shoot goes in", in the end they had 7 shots
on target, scored 6 goals.
After Vrsaljko got injured, we had only 5 players on the field
who played in the WC final.

Majority of fans are not disappointed, but realistic, since we are a
small nation,
in many positions we don't have such depth to replace one good player
with another one soon.
Lleo
2018-11-21 13:11:53 UTC
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The most exciting thing to happen in European Football since the advent of
the Offside rule starts on Thursday.
And now that the group stage is over, we have the complete divisional movements:

A to B: Germany, Iceland, Poland, Croatia
B to A: Ukraine, Sweden, Bosnia, Denmark

B to C: Slovakia, Turkey, Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland
C to B: Scotland, Finland, Norway, Serbia

C to D: Estonia, Cyprus, Slovenia, Lithuania
D to C: Georgia, Belarus, Kosovo, Macedonia

Some geographically based comments:

League D remains being the Graveyard of Former Soviet Republics. Sure, Georgia
and Belarus escaped, but Estonia and Lithuania replaced them. Seven of the 11
ex-USSR members that lie in UEFA are in the bottom level of the Nations League.
Ukraine will be in League A and Russia stays in the B.

Nordic Countries are almost all of them in the top two flights, with all of
Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Norway earning promotion. Small Iceland predictably
went down to League B. Only the Faroes remain at the bottom level, as expected
I guess.

Teams from the former Yugoslavia are all over the place. Bosnia's promotion
means they'll be the highest ranked team from the regionin the NL. Croatia
and Serbia are in League B and there's Montenegro, Kosovo and Macedonia in
C. I'm a bit surprised to see that Slovenia will be the lowest ranked of these,
being demoted to League D. I know they were never exactly a powerhouse, but
they still got two WC participations in their curriculum (which will be two
more than the entire rest of League D 2020/21 combined). What happened?

British & Irish: there'll be England and Scotland at the top level and Wales
remains in the second flight. Both NI and the Republic are down to the third.

Since I'm not sure about who exactly would be the due constituents of "West",
"Central", "East" or "South" Europe, I'll leave these to rss's capable hands :-)


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HASM
2018-11-21 13:30:10 UTC
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Since I'm not sure about who exactly would be the due constituents of
"West", "Central", "East" or "South" Europe, I'll leave these to rss's
capable hands :-)
Portugal, (probably) along with Spain, Italy, Greece, is always
considered in the South, even though the westernmost point in
continental Europe is about 20 miles from Lisbon, which should make it
more like South-West Europe, a designation I've never heard.

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MH
2018-11-21 18:32:17 UTC
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Post by Binder Dundat
The most exciting thing to happen in European Football since the advent of
the Offside rule starts on Thursday.
A to B: Germany, Iceland, Poland, Croatia
B to A: Ukraine, Sweden, Bosnia, Denmark
B to C: Slovakia, Turkey, Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland
C to B: Scotland, Finland, Norway, Serbia
C to D: Estonia, Cyprus, Slovenia, Lithuania
D to C: Georgia, Belarus, Kosovo, Macedonia
One of those four, at least, will qualify for Euro 2020, which is kind
of cool. This will be either through the normal qualification process,
or through the playoff. Same is true for the higher leagues, though
that is less special since most of the division winners have qualified
for major tournaments before, except for Finland.

We also now know the pots for the draw for the groups for Euro 2020
qualification.

What I think was great about this Nations' league was the chance for
Andorra, Gibraltar, Malta, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg and so on to win
games or at least draw more than one. Quite clear that San Marino is
the weakest link.
ixion martin - GdBx
2018-11-21 20:37:08 UTC
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Post by Lleo
D to C: Georgia, Belarus, Kosovo, Macedonia
One of those four, at least, will qualify for Euro 2020,
which is kind of cool.
In a 6 groups system with better third qualified, I bet we will
hear some people whinning about that...
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un crochet à la place de la main droite, qui rêve de jouer
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vedran
2018-12-06 15:08:52 UTC
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C. I'm a bit surprised to see that Slovenia will be the lowest ranked of these,
being demoted to League D. I know they were never exactly a powerhouse, but
they still got two WC participations in their curriculum (which will be two
more than the entire rest of League D 2020/21 combined). What happened?
Ah... Slovenia, as our neighbor I should probably know something,
but I really don't. I used to watch them all the time when Zahovic
was playing, now I could barely name few players.

But I'll share few fun facts about Slovenia.

Did you know they are in a group of well chosen powerhouses like
Somalia, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Sri Lanka, Mongolia, Cook Islands
and Granada who didn't give a single point for Modric in voting
for Ballon d'Or?

When asked about it, their journalist
https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/slovenac-objasnio-zasto-mu-modric-nije-ni-medju-pet-isto-vam-je-i-sa-zenama/2047607.aspx
who gave votes to CR, Hazard, Messi, Jan Oblak and Mbappe
said: "my 5 players are by my taste, main players of the best clubs.
Modric is a great player, but I can say that I was really
surprised he got all those awards. Of course, I congratulate him
wholeheartedly. With football players it's the same as with women,
music or tourist destinations. I'm also sorry that our Jan Oblak
didn't get a single point from a Croatian voter."

If you have read my previous posts here when I was mentioning
neighbors, this is exactly what I was referring at.
Some Slovenians made a comment that he has problems with alcohol
and is an embarrassment to Slovenian national TV, but after reading
many comments from Slovenians, something tells me most of them
silently agree with him.
If you ever see a word ZLOvenci instead of Slovenci, that's because
"ZLO" in Croatian means "evil" :)

Recently Matjaz Kek became a coach of Slovenian national team again,
he is highly respected here in Croatia because he was able to stop
Dinamo Zagreb domination by winning a Croatian League 2 years ago
with NK Rijeka. He is the one who took Slovenia to the WC last time,
but it's really hard for me to say if they have a capacity to
qualify for this EURO. They got Austria in a group, I expected
more from Austria last time, but they failed me.
Bruce Scott
2018-12-07 12:40:04 UTC
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On 2018-12-06, vedran <***@je.vise> wrote:
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Post by vedran
Ah... Slovenia, as our neighbor I should probably know something,
but I really don't. I used to watch them all the time when Zahovic
was playing, now I could barely name few players.
But I'll share few fun facts about Slovenia.
[...]
Post by vedran
If you have read my previous posts here when I was mentioning
neighbors, this is exactly what I was referring at.
[...]

But these countries always give each other big points at the Eurovision
Song Contest... we all know that's the most important indication!
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ciao, Bruce
vedran
2018-12-11 19:47:04 UTC
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But these countries always give each other big points at the Eurovision
Song Contest... we all know that's the most important indication!
I've seen bad jokes about Eurovision being the real reason why
Yugoslavia split up, but I'll admit that the first
time we gave 12 points to Serbia, I was... unpleasantly surprised,
better said shocked and a bit nauseous. And this was only Eurosong,
something really unimportant.

But I was quite naive and failed to admit that people here like to
listen something
that comes from Bosnia and Serbia which we call turbo folk or "cajke".
And when some foreigner asks me what's that all about I just
show him some Afrika :)



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