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Not all that OT: Pink Floyd
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John Knapp
2004-01-06 14:29:38 UTC
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I was listening to an old Pink Floyd album last night ("Meddle"). I had
forgotten that at the end of the song "Fearless" there's a pretty long
snippet of what I assume is a football crowd singing "You'll never walk
alone". Kind of cool. Anyone know what the deal is here? Is it a
Liverpool crowd? Were the members of PF fans?


P.S. Showing my occasional indulgence for dino-rock here, but if you
haven't listended to Pink Floyd's "The Final Cut" in a while (or you've
never heard it at all), you really should give it another listen. The
last album with Roger Waters and just a great piece of work.
PeterMcC
2004-01-06 15:12:56 UTC
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Post by John Knapp
I was listening to an old Pink Floyd album last night ("Meddle"). I
had forgotten that at the end of the song "Fearless" there's a
pretty long snippet of what I assume is a football crowd singing
"You'll never walk alone". Kind of cool. Anyone know what the deal
is here? Is it a Liverpool crowd? Were the members of PF fans?
I don't know where the writer below got the info but:

'Even the Floyd themselves like this song. Dave said "There are more songs
on that album that are more significant than Echoes -- the one with "You'll
never walk alone" at the end of it..." Those drunken Liverpool fans were
just what the Floyd wanted for this song. Rick said "We featured the
Liverpool supporters because they're the best football crowd in the country
for what we wanted."'

http://www.epinions.com/musc-review-525E-107425C9-3A034822-prod2

That "...they're the best football crowd in the country for what we wanted,"
has an ambiguity that might not necessarily please Liverpool fans.

And I'd be grateful if you didn't mention to anyone else that I know
anything about Pink Floyd. Thanks.
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PeterMcC
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please ignore it and accept my apologies.
simon
2004-01-06 15:43:39 UTC
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Post by PeterMcC
'Even the Floyd themselves like this song. Dave said "There are more
songs on that album that are more significant than Echoes -- the one
with "You'll never walk alone" at the end of it..." Those drunken
Liverpool fans were just what the Floyd wanted for this song. Rick said
"We featured the Liverpool supporters because they're the best football
crowd in the country for what we wanted."'
They probably got the idea from John Peel, the venerable DJ, who was a
friend of theirs and who is also a Liverpool supporter. He plays a crowd
rendition of 'You'll never walk alone' on his programme every so often.
--
Simon
PeterMcC
2004-01-06 19:50:24 UTC
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Post by PeterMcC
'Even the Floyd themselves like this song. Dave said "There are more
songs on that album that are more significant than Echoes -- the one
with "You'll never walk alone" at the end of it..." Those drunken
Liverpool fans were just what the Floyd wanted for this song. Rick
said "We featured the Liverpool supporters because they're the best
football crowd in the country for what we wanted."'
They probably got the idea from John Peel, the venerable DJ, who was a
friend of theirs and who is also a Liverpool supporter. He plays a
crowd rendition of 'You'll never walk alone' on his programme every
so often.
Can I ask a favour? It does bring it back OT a little.

We've recently used a sound sample of a football match commentary in a
recording by a popular beat combo but the provenance of the sample is
unclear. It describes a run by "Brown" and I've been told that it was from
an FA Final. My guess, based on the recording quality is that it's 60s
onwards; if it is an FA final, that would limit it to:
Ken Brown - WEST HAM v Preston North End 1964
Tony Brown - WEST BROM v Everton 1968

There's a clip at: http://www.brownrecordings.com/brown.html
It's the "original version".

It's a long-shot but maybe someone recognises it from a recording of the
original that they may have. I'm afraid that it's just idle curiosity on my
part but I'd be grateful if anyone knows which match it's from - FA Final or
otherwise.
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PeterMcC
If you feel that any of the above is incorrect,
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please ignore it and accept my apologies.
ruud
2004-01-07 01:57:25 UTC
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Post by PeterMcC
And I'd be grateful if you didn't mention to anyone else that I know
anything about Pink Floyd. Thanks.
? Something wrong with it?

Ruud (possessing about 30 albums in both vinyl and disk, including about a
dozen bootlegs).
Victoria Barrett
2004-01-06 15:40:35 UTC
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Post by John Knapp
I was listening to an old Pink Floyd album last night ("Meddle"). I had
forgotten that at the end of the song "Fearless" there's a pretty long
snippet of what I assume is a football crowd singing "You'll never walk
alone". Kind of cool. Anyone know what the deal is here? Is it a
Liverpool crowd? Were the members of PF fans?
I believe all of the above. And yes, your suspicions are correct, it's
a famous part of the track.

Actually, I don't mind Pink Floyd unlike what I said earlier. But it's
not like I have a CD of theirs either.
Post by John Knapp
P.S. Showing my occasional indulgence for dino-rock here,
Dino-rock! Ohhhhhhhh this is champion. I'll have to use that to take
the mickey out of the parents, thank you.
Post by John Knapp
but if you
haven't listended to Pink Floyd's "The Final Cut" in a while (or you've
never heard it at all), you really should give it another listen. The
last album with Roger Waters and just a great piece of work.
Hmm. Okay, I'll Napster it, cheers!
Mark V.
2004-01-06 17:49:58 UTC
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Post by John Knapp
I was listening to an old Pink Floyd album last night ("Meddle"). I had
forgotten that at the end of the song "Fearless" there's a pretty long
snippet of what I assume is a football crowd singing "You'll never walk
alone". Kind of cool. Anyone know what the deal is here? Is it a
Liverpool crowd? Were the members of PF fans?
P.S. Showing my occasional indulgence for dino-rock here, but if you
haven't listended to Pink Floyd's "The Final Cut" in a while (or you've
never heard it at all), you really should give it another listen. The
last album with Roger Waters and just a great piece of work.
Not now John. We've gotta get on with this!
John Knapp
2004-01-06 18:43:58 UTC
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Post by Mark V.
Post by John Knapp
I was listening to an old Pink Floyd album last night ("Meddle"). I had
forgotten that at the end of the song "Fearless" there's a pretty long
snippet of what I assume is a football crowd singing "You'll never walk
alone". Kind of cool. Anyone know what the deal is here? Is it a
Liverpool crowd? Were the members of PF fans?
P.S. Showing my occasional indulgence for dino-rock here, but if you
haven't listended to Pink Floyd's "The Final Cut" in a while (or you've
never heard it at all), you really should give it another listen. The
last album with Roger Waters and just a great piece of work.
Not now John. We've gotta get on with this!
Brilliant!!!!!!
Maciej Hrynczyszyn
2004-01-07 01:37:56 UTC
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Post by John Knapp
P.S. Showing my occasional indulgence for dino-rock here, but if you
haven't listended to Pink Floyd's "The Final Cut" in a while (or you've
never heard it at all), you really should give it another listen. The
last album with Roger Waters and just a great piece of work.
It's my favourite. People in general don't like or even know this album
('something after The Wall') but for me it's, well, special. Song after
song I do believe in every word, I enjoy every sound.
Nice to see it's not forgotten, greets.

M,
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ruud
2004-01-07 07:03:13 UTC
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Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
It's my favourite. People in general don't like or even know this album
('something after The Wall') but for me it's, well, special. Song after
song I do believe in every word, I enjoy every sound.
Nice to see it's not forgotten, greets.
It didn't sell well because it's depressing. That doesn't mean they aren't
great songs.
Diabolik
2004-01-07 09:32:42 UTC
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Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
It's my favourite. People in general don't like or even know this album
('something after The Wall') but for me it's, well, special. Song after
song I do believe in every word, I enjoy every sound.
The airplane crash sound has a meaning.
Maciej Hrynczyszyn
2004-01-08 22:59:40 UTC
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Post by Diabolik
Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
It's my favourite. People in general don't like or even know this
album ('something after The Wall') but for me it's, well, special.
Song after song I do believe in every word, I enjoy every sound.
The airplane crash sound has a meaning.
BTW, I've always been wondering what does 'and even now part of me flies
over Dresden at angels one five' mean. B-51? 15 000 feet?

M,
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Diabolik
2004-01-12 10:20:03 UTC
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Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
Post by Diabolik
Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
It's my favourite. People in general don't like or even know this
album ('something after The Wall') but for me it's, well, special.
Song after song I do believe in every word, I enjoy every sound.
The airplane crash sound has a meaning.
BTW, I've always been wondering what does 'and even now part of me flies
over Dresden at angels one five' mean. B-51? 15 000 feet?
Roger Waters' father was killed in WW2.
The "Final Cut" was dedicated to him.
Maciej Hrynczyszyn
2004-01-12 13:18:32 UTC
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Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
Post by Diabolik
Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
It's my favourite. People in general don't like or even know
this album ('something after The Wall') but for me it's, well,
special. Song after song I do believe in every word, I enjoy
every sound.
The airplane crash sound has a meaning.
BTW, I've always been wondering what does 'and even now part of me
flies over Dresden at angels one five' mean. B-51? 15 000 feet?
Roger Waters' father was killed in WW2.
The "Final Cut" was dedicated to him.
Sure, I know that, I was talking about 'angels one five' piece.

M,
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PeterMcC
2004-01-12 18:03:34 UTC
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Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
It's my favourite. People in general don't like or even know
this album ('something after The Wall') but for me it's, well,
special. Song after song I do believe in every word, I enjoy
every sound.
The airplane crash sound has a meaning.
BTW, I've always been wondering what does 'and even now part of me
flies over Dresden at angels one five' mean. B-51? 15 000 feet?
Roger Waters' father was killed in WW2.
The "Final Cut" was dedicated to him.
Sure, I know that, I was talking about 'angels one five' piece.
Angels=height in thousands of feet thus "...flies over Dresden at 15,000
feet."

Possibly chose that particular height because the phrase entered the public
consciousness with the 1952 John Gregson / Jack Hawkins film "Angels One
Five" (1952)
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PeterMcC
If you feel that any of the above is incorrect,
inappropriate or offensive in any way,
please ignore it and accept my apologies.
Maciej Hrynczyszyn
2004-02-05 14:44:25 UTC
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On 12 sty 2004, PeterMcC [***@mccourt.org.uk] wrote:

[I forgot to send it a couple of weeks ago, sorry]
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Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
Post by Diabolik
Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
BTW, I've always been wondering what does 'and even now part of me
flies over Dresden at angels one five' mean. B-51? 15 000 feet?
Roger Waters' father was killed in WW2.
The "Final Cut" was dedicated to him.
Sure, I know that, I was talking about 'angels one five' piece.
Angels=height in thousands of feet thus "...flies over Dresden at
15,000 feet."
Possibly chose that particular height because the phrase entered the
public consciousness with the 1952 John Gregson / Jack Hawkins film
"Angels One Five" (1952)
Ah, now it sounds even better.
Thank you very much, you never know when you learn something... :-)

M, off to IMDB
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You hit the target & win the game from bars 3 000 miles away.
We play the game with the bravery of being out of range.
Mark V.
2004-01-12 19:40:49 UTC
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Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
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Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
It's my favourite. People in general don't like or even know this
album ('something after The Wall') but for me it's, well, special.
Song after song I do believe in every word, I enjoy every sound.
The airplane crash sound has a meaning.
BTW, I've always been wondering what does 'and even now part of me flies
over Dresden at angels one five' mean. B-51? 15 000 feet?
Roger Waters' father was killed in WW2.
The "Final Cut" was dedicated to him.
The movie "The Wall" refers to this a number of times.
Diabolik
2004-01-13 00:33:27 UTC
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Post by Diabolik
Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
Post by Diabolik
Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
It's my favourite. People in general don't like or even know this
album ('something after The Wall') but for me it's, well, special.
Song after song I do believe in every word, I enjoy every sound.
The airplane crash sound has a meaning.
BTW, I've always been wondering what does 'and even now part of me flies
over Dresden at angels one five' mean. B-51? 15 000 feet?
Roger Waters' father was killed in WW2.
The "Final Cut" was dedicated to him.
The movie "The Wall" refers to this a number of times.
It's a recurring thought in his head.
His pain (creativity) was one of the reasons for the rise and downfall of
Pink Floyd.

At the end it was getting too boring.
John Knapp
2004-01-07 14:30:54 UTC
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Post by ruud
Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
It's my favourite. People in general don't like or even know this album
('something after The Wall') but for me it's, well, special. Song after
song I do believe in every word, I enjoy every sound.
Nice to see it's not forgotten, greets.
It didn't sell well because it's depressing.
Ain't that the truth!

That doesn't mean they aren't
Post by ruud
great songs.
They are indeed.
Manuel Freitas
2004-01-07 15:00:25 UTC
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Post by John Knapp
P.S. Showing my occasional indulgence for dino-rock here, but if you
haven't listended to Pink Floyd's "The Final Cut" in a while (or you've
never heard it at all), you really should give it another listen. The
last album with Roger Waters and just a great piece of work.
It's my favourite. People in general don't like or even know this album
('something after The Wall') but for me it's, well, special. Song after
song I do believe in every word, I enjoy every sound.
Nice to see it's not forgotten, greets.
Dark Side of the Moon is by far my favorite Album/CD of all time, of
any band/artist. I have to be very careful when I play it because, to
me nothing of what I may play afterwards even comes close.

- Manuel.
Diabolik
2004-01-08 07:52:39 UTC
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Post by Manuel Freitas
Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
Post by John Knapp
P.S. Showing my occasional indulgence for dino-rock here, but if you
haven't listended to Pink Floyd's "The Final Cut" in a while (or you've
never heard it at all), you really should give it another listen. The
last album with Roger Waters and just a great piece of work.
It's my favourite. People in general don't like or even know this album
('something after The Wall') but for me it's, well, special. Song after
song I do believe in every word, I enjoy every sound.
Nice to see it's not forgotten, greets.
Dark Side of the Moon is by far my favorite Album/CD of all time, of
any band/artist. I have to be very careful when I play it because, to
me nothing of what I may play afterwards even comes close.
I agree, it is one of my favourites too.

What about Animals?
Myk Cameron
2004-01-08 08:47:05 UTC
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Post by John Knapp
Post by Manuel Freitas
Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
Post by John Knapp
P.S. Showing my occasional indulgence for dino-rock here, but if you
haven't listended to Pink Floyd's "The Final Cut" in a while (or
you've
Post by Manuel Freitas
Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
Post by John Knapp
never heard it at all), you really should give it another listen. The
last album with Roger Waters and just a great piece of work.
It's my favourite. People in general don't like or even know this album
('something after The Wall') but for me it's, well, special. Song after
song I do believe in every word, I enjoy every sound.
Nice to see it's not forgotten, greets.
Dark Side of the Moon is by far my favorite Album/CD of all time, of
any band/artist. I have to be very careful when I play it because, to
me nothing of what I may play afterwards even comes close.
I agree, it is one of my favourites too.
What about Animals?
I'm not sure if animals listen to Pink Floyd. A quick poll of my
family pets revealed that the felines prefer Cat Stevens, and our
mouse likes Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake (somthing about
Mouseketeers I guess).


Myk
Diabolik
2004-01-09 06:11:25 UTC
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Post by Manuel Freitas
Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
Post by John Knapp
P.S. Showing my occasional indulgence for dino-rock here, but if you
haven't listended to Pink Floyd's "The Final Cut" in a while (or
you've
Post by Manuel Freitas
Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
Post by John Knapp
never heard it at all), you really should give it another listen.
The
Post by Myk Cameron
Post by John Knapp
Post by Manuel Freitas
Post by Maciej Hrynczyszyn
Post by John Knapp
last album with Roger Waters and just a great piece of work.
It's my favourite. People in general don't like or even know this album
('something after The Wall') but for me it's, well, special. Song after
song I do believe in every word, I enjoy every sound.
Nice to see it's not forgotten, greets.
Dark Side of the Moon is by far my favorite Album/CD of all time, of
any band/artist. I have to be very careful when I play it because, to
me nothing of what I may play afterwards even comes close.
I agree, it is one of my favourites too.
What about Animals?
I'm not sure if animals listen to Pink Floyd.
I think PIGS prefer listening to Pink Floyd ;)

Listen to their "Animals" album.
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