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Bundesliga 33. Still some suspense left ?
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MH
2019-05-10 17:08:39 UTC
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Hard to believe Bayern will not win the title now, but they might be
made to wait a week to celebrate. Still some tight races for European
places. And while the bottom 3 are set, any of the three teams could
theoretically still be saved through the relegation playoffs.

Bayer Leverkusen v Schalke 04

Schalke safe, Bayer have a chance to qualify for CL.

3-1


Borussia Dortmund v Fortuna Düsseldorf

BvB really need to win, but I don't think it will do them any good.

3-0


FC Augsburg v Hertha Berlin

1-2 in a meaningless game.


Hannover 96 v SC Freiburg


0-0


Nurnberg v Borussia Monchengladbach

Gladbach could still jump into the CL places, but will need help from
other teams. Nürnberg need to win their last two.

1-1


RB Leipzig v Bayern Munich

Red Bull or should I say Lawnball are safely in the CL for next year,
and will probably not offer a determined resistance, saving that for the
cup final.

1-2


TSG Hoffenheim v Werder Bremen

Hoffenheim with an outside chance at CL. Bremen still with a chance at
Europa league

3-2

VfB Stuttgart v VfL Wolfsburg

Stuttgart needs to match Nürnberg's result to be sure of a ticket to the
last chance saloon.

1-1

SUNDAY (unusually for second last round, presumably because Eintracht
played on THursday ?)

Frankfurt - Mainz

Local derby, Frankfurt need to recover from disappointment and win this
if they want to make the CL.

2-1
Jesper Lauridsen
2019-05-10 22:59:35 UTC
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Post by MH
Hard to believe Bayern will not win the title now, but they might be
made to wait a week to celebrate. Still some tight races for European
places. And while the bottom 3 are set, any of the three teams could
theoretically still be saved through the relegation playoffs.
In the premier league the only open question requires Brighton to beat
the 59 points better Man City. So a good deal more at stake here.
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Bayer Leverkusen v Schalke 04
Schalke safe, Bayer have a chance to qualify for CL.
Key is that Schalke is shit. 4-1
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Borussia Dortmund v Fortuna Düsseldorf
BvB really need to win, but I don't think it will do them any good.
3-1
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FC Augsburg v Hertha Berlin
1-2 in a meaningless game.
Logic dictates a draw. 1-1
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Hannover 96 v SC Freiburg
2-1
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Nurnberg v Borussia Monchengladbach
Gladbach could still jump into the CL places, but will need help from
other teams. Nürnberg need to win their last two.
1-1
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RB Leipzig v Bayern Munich
Red Bull or should I say Lawnball are safely in the CL for next year,
and will probably not offer a determined resistance, saving that for the
cup final.
1-2
Big game, so I should go for a draw? But Bayern never wins the title
at home. 2-3
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TSG Hoffenheim v Werder Bremen
Hoffenheim with an outside chance at CL. Bremen still with a chance at
Europa league
1532: Pizarro destroys the Inca empire.
2019: Pizarro destroys Dortmund.

1-1
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VfB Stuttgart v VfL Wolfsburg
Stuttgart needs to match Nürnberg's result to be sure of a ticket to the
last chance saloon.
Maybe Bruno can give some tips on how to survive the relegation match?

Sweet, sweet away points. 1-2
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SUNDAY (unusually for second last round, presumably because Eintracht
played on THursday ?)
Frankfurt - Mainz
Local derby, Frankfurt need to recover from disappointment and win this
if they want to make the CL.
Tough if Frankfurt ends up with nothing. 3-1
Binder Dundat
2019-05-11 00:55:45 UTC
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Hard to believe Bayern will not win the title now, but they might be
made to wait a week to celebrate. Still some tight races for European
places. And while the bottom 3 are set, any of the three teams could
theoretically still be saved through the relegation playoffs.
The dreaded 4th place seems about the only thing to play for and from what I have seen, no one really wants 4th place anymore.
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Bayer Leverkusen v Schalke 04
Schalke safe, Bayer have a chance to qualify for CL.
3-1
Drunken Homer picks can sometimes work.
1-2
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Borussia Dortmund v Fortuna Düsseldorf
BvB really need to win, but I don't think it will do them any good.
3-0
still gettin drunk

2-2
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FC Augsburg v Hertha Berlin
1-2 in a meaningless game.
this may take a while to get fully Homer drunk...
1-2
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Hannover 96 v SC Freiburg
0-0
1-3
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Nurnberg v Borussia Monchengladbach
Gladbach could still jump into the CL places, but will need help from
other teams. Nürnberg need to win their last two.
1-1
1-3
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RB Leipzig v Bayern Munich
Red Bull or should I say Lawnball are safely in the CL for next year,
and will probably not offer a determined resistance, saving that for the
cup final.
1-2
2-1
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TSG Hoffenheim v Werder Bremen
Hoffenheim with an outside chance at CL. Bremen still with a chance at
Europa league
3-2
2-2
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VfB Stuttgart v VfL Wolfsburg
Stuttgart needs to match Nürnberg's result to be sure of a ticket to the
last chance saloon.
1-1
2-3
Post by MH
SUNDAY (unusually for second last round, presumably because Eintracht
played on THursday ?)
Frankfurt - Mainz
Local derby, Frankfurt need to recover from disappointment and win this
if they want to make the CL.
2-1
OK, finally fully drunk

0-2
Futbolmetrix
2019-05-11 03:51:47 UTC
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Bayer Leverkusen v Schalke 04
3-0
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Borussia Dortmund v Fortuna Düsseldorf
3-0
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FC Augsburg v Hertha Berlin
2-1
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Hannover 96 v SC Freiburg
1-2
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Nurnberg v Borussia Monchengladbach
1-3
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RB Leipzig v Bayern Munich
Drama! 2-1
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TSG Hoffenheim v Werder Bremen
2-2
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VfB Stuttgart v VfL Wolfsburg
1-2
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Frankfurt - Mainz
1-1
Jesper Lauridsen
2019-05-11 10:24:22 UTC
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Hard to believe Bayern will not win the title now, but they might be
made to wait a week to celebrate. Still some tight races for European
places. And while the bottom 3 are set, any of the three teams could
theoretically still be saved through the relegation playoffs.
Good drama potential in 3. Liga today and next week. 4 relegation
spots - one has been taken by Aalen, but then we have *6* teams
between 39 and 42 points, with a further 2 teams on 44.

It's notoriusly difficult to get back from the Regionalligas, and some
of these teams risk being relegated to the same Regionalliga. Sonnenhof
Grossaspach and Aalen will both go to RL South-West and so will
compete for the same single promotion spot next season.

Jena and Cottbus are from North-East; a RL that next season will
*share* their promotion spot with RL West, where Fortuna Köln and
Lotte is headed. At most one of those 4 teams will be able to get back
up right away.

Promotion is not so exciting. Karlsruhe in second is 4 points ahead of
Wehen in third, who has a further 4 points on Halle in 4th. Both are
up against teams with nothing to play for.
Binder Dundat
2019-05-11 13:29:04 UTC
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Post by MH
Hard to believe Bayern will not win the title now, but they might be
made to wait a week to celebrate. Still some tight races for European
places. And while the bottom 3 are set, any of the three teams could
theoretically still be saved through the relegation playoffs.
Good drama potential in 3. Liga today and next week. 4 relegation
spots - one has been taken by Aalen, but then we have *6* teams
between 39 and 42 points, with a further 2 teams on 44.
It's notoriusly difficult to get back from the Regionalligas, and some
of these teams risk being relegated to the same Regionalliga. Sonnenhof
Grossaspach and Aalen will both go to RL South-West and so will
compete for the same single promotion spot next season.
1860 got out after one season.

Maybe I am thinking of last season, but I seem to recall Kaiserslautern at the bottom of the table earlier in the season?
Post by Jesper Lauridsen
Jena and Cottbus are from North-East; a RL that next season will
*share* their promotion spot with RL West, where Fortuna Köln and
Lotte is headed. At most one of those 4 teams will be able to get back
up right away.
Promotion is not so exciting. Karlsruhe in second is 4 points ahead of
Wehen in third, who has a further 4 points on Halle in 4th. Both are
up against teams with nothing to play for.
Interesting game tomorrow in the 2nd div between HSV (who seem to want to stay in the 2nd div) and newly promoted Paderborn (who have been jumping around the top three divisions lately).

Hard to get excited over the last two weeks of 1st div. The Man is showing the Red Bull vs Bayern game live on tv here, but even a Red Bull win wont be enough to change Bayern winning...or no, BVB losing the title. As much as I would like to see Eintracht get the last UCL spot, I get the feeling they will be mediocre next year after selling their Yugos in the summer, so I would just as soon see the Pretenders move up to 4th-though they may lose a bunch of youngsters as well.

It is a shame the fake WWEpl sports entertainment industry is buying up all the good... err no, even mediocre players from the Bundesliga.

Might not even bother watching today, I wanna go out and look for a new cottage which does not get flooded every frickin second year. The problem is I did this two years ago when we had the worst ever, once in a 100 years flood (it was just as high or even higher this year, had a cottage neighbour call me yesterday to tell me he had rescued one of my boats that had floated onto the road) and we drove around for a week only to come to the conclusion that even with the flooding, we were better off where we were. Of course, we also thought that we would not get another flood for 100 years and by that time I would probably be a bit too old to enjoy fishing, swimming, boating and rocking out and blaring the Scorpions at midnight.
Jesper Lauridsen
2019-05-11 14:02:11 UTC
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Half an hour gone in 8 games and only one lousy goal!

Leverkusen - Schalke 0-0
Dortmund - Düsseldorf 0-0
Augsburg - Hertha 1-0
Hannover - Freiburg 0-0
Nürnberg - Gladbach 0-0
Leipzig - Bayern 0-0
Hoffenheim - Werder 0-0
Stuttgart - Wolfsburg 0-0

MH 16
Futbolmetrix 10
Jesper 9
Binder 9
Jesper Lauridsen
2019-05-11 14:04:31 UTC
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Half an hour gone in 8 games and only one lousy goal!
2 lousy goals now. Leverkusen up against Schalke.
Jesper Lauridsen
2019-05-11 14:21:36 UTC
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Both Eggesteins scoring for Werder. Dortmund doing their job.

Scratch that. VAR takes away one of their goals.

HT
Leverkusen - Schalke 1-0
Dortmund - Düsseldorf 1-0
Augsburg - Hertha 1-0
Hannover - Freiburg 1-0
Nürnberg - Gladbach 0-0
Leipzig - Bayern 0-0
Hoffenheim - Werder 0-1
Stuttgart - Wolfsburg 1-0

Jesper 17
Futbolmetrix 14
MH 14
Binder 3
Jesper Lauridsen
2019-05-11 14:45:55 UTC
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That's more like it. Second half just started and we have a flurry of
goals. Too many according to the BVARB room, that takes away Goretzka's
clean goal for some imaginary offside.

Leverkusen - Schalke 1-1
Dortmund - Düsseldorf 2-1
Augsburg - Hertha 2-1
Hannover - Freiburg 2-0
Nürnberg - Gladbach 0-1
Leipzig - Bayern 0-0
Hoffenheim - Werder 0-1
Stuttgart - Wolfsburg 2-0

Futbolmetrix 13
Jesper 12
Binder 7
MH 6
Jesper Lauridsen
2019-05-11 15:38:48 UTC
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FT
Leverkusen - Schalke 1-1
Some quality pretending.

Dortmund - Düsseldorf 3-2
90+5 goal robs me of 2 points.

Augsburg - Hertha 3-4
90+2 penalty takes 4 points from me and gives 5 to MH.

Hannover - Freiburg 3-0
Relegated, but going down fighting.

Nürnberg - Gladbach 0-4
If you're going to be relegated, you might as well just say fuck it.

Leipzig - Bayern 0-0
Bayern should have won, but VAR is as VAR does.

Hoffenheim - Werder 0-1
Werder still needs to win and hope none of the plastics win.

Stuttgart - Wolfsburg 3-0
Getting ready for HSV.

Binder 11
MH 11
Jesper 9
Futbolmetrix 8
Binder Dundat
2019-05-12 14:24:45 UTC
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FT
Leverkusen - Schalke 1-1
Some quality pretending.
Dortmund - Düsseldorf 3-2
90+5 goal robs me of 2 points.
Augsburg - Hertha 3-4
90+2 penalty takes 4 points from me and gives 5 to MH.
Hannover - Freiburg 3-0
Relegated, but going down fighting.
Nürnberg - Gladbach 0-4
If you're going to be relegated, you might as well just say fuck it.
Leipzig - Bayern 0-0
Bayern should have won, but VAR is as VAR does.
Hoffenheim - Werder 0-1
Werder still needs to win and hope none of the plastics win.
Stuttgart - Wolfsburg 3-0
Getting ready for HSV.
Binder 11
MH 11
Jesper 9
Futbolmetrix 8
Really? Drunkn Homer picks actually worked.

In the MOTD, newly promoted Paderborn leading newly demoted HSV 1-0 at the half, Union Berlin leading 2-0 at the half. HSV not even in the promotion play off at the moment.

Paderborn back in the Bundesliga, that takes me way back to 2014. I might add in those 5 years, since the 1st div demotion, Paderborn managed to get themselves down as low as the 3rd div. Still time for it all to change, HSV have the great JP Lassogga on the pitch. Or not if he gets subbed at the half.
Jesper Lauridsen
2019-05-12 15:00:04 UTC
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In the MOTD, newly promoted Paderborn leading newly demoted HSV 1-0
at the half, Union Berlin leading 2-0 at the half. HSV not even in
the promotion play off at the moment.
2-0 now. Shambolic defending. And HSV gets one back. Maybe there is
still life?
Jesper Lauridsen
2019-05-12 15:13:13 UTC
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In the MOTD, newly promoted Paderborn leading newly demoted HSV 1-0
at the half, Union Berlin leading 2-0 at the half. HSV not even in
the promotion play off at the moment.
2-0 now. Shambolic defending. And HSV gets one back. Maybe there is
still life?
Nope. Paderborn makes it 3-1. HSV will need at least 2 goals in the
final 10 minutes.
Binder Dundat
2019-05-12 15:19:12 UTC
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In the MOTD, newly promoted Paderborn leading newly demoted HSV 1-0
at the half, Union Berlin leading 2-0 at the half. HSV not even in
the promotion play off at the moment.
2-0 now. Shambolic defending. And HSV gets one back. Maybe there is
still life?
Nope. Paderborn makes it 3-1. HSV will need at least 2 goals in the
final 10 minutes.
tryly over now 4-1

Even the promising, young, soon to be Bayern reject came on to save them, but no, it is over for HSV.
Jesper Lauridsen
2019-05-12 18:31:11 UTC
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Duisburg and Magdeburg relegated from 2nd Bundesliga. Promotion is
between Paderborn and Magdeburg.

Leverkusen - Schalke 1-1 (3)
Dortmund - Düsseldorf 3-2 (13)
Augsburg - Hertha 3-4 (10)
Hannover - Freiburg 3-0 (4)
Nürnberg - Gladbach 0-4 (8)
Leipzig - Bayern 0-0 (0)
Hoffenheim - Werder 0-1 (1)
Stuttgart - Wolfsburg 3-0 (0)
Frankfurt - Mainz 0-2 (7)

Only a tiny margin stops this round from being the worst of the
season. Absurd results provide an absurd winner.

Binder 18
MH 11
Jesper 9
Futbolmetrix 8

Backing Mainz gives Binder his 9th win of the season.


Red jersey
Jesper 700
MH 697
Futbolmetrix 641
Binder 629
Werner 591

Couldn't be closer.


Stage wins
Werner 10
Binder 9
MH 6
Futbolmetrix 6
Jesper 4

Werner can't relax yet.


Rückrunde
Binder 345
Jesper 344
MH 340
Futbolmetrix 336
Werner 284

Binder jumps from 4th to first.
Bruce Scott
2019-05-13 09:49:34 UTC
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Leipzig - Bayern 0-0
Bayern should have won, but VAR is as VAR does.
Had VAR done nothing RB would have scored. When we had to win the match
was on the fairy tale play when Ribery passed to Robben for his winning
strike... but he put it into row Z.

Oh, and Gnabry hit the crossbar. Again. This time he should have
passed to his right for an easy tap-in.

So I get my Home Final for the first time since 1994 and 2000.
--
ciao, Bruce
Jesper Lauridsen
2019-05-12 14:30:06 UTC
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Interesting game tomorrow in the 2nd div between HSV (who seem to want to stay in the 2nd div) and newly promoted Paderborn (who have been jumping around the top three divisions lately).
At halftime Paderborn 1-0 against HSV and Union 2-0 against Magdeburg. If that
holds HSV will need to make up 3 points and 18 goals in the final round.
Jesper Lauridsen
2019-05-11 13:33:31 UTC
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Post by MH
Hard to believe Bayern will not win the title now, but they might be
made to wait a week to celebrate. Still some tight races for European
places. And while the bottom 3 are set, any of the three teams could
theoretically still be saved through the relegation playoffs.
Good drama potential in 3. Liga today and next week. 4 relegation
spots - one has been taken by Aalen, but then we have *6* teams
between 39 and 42 points, with a further 2 teams on 44.
Some dust have settled. A late goal sinks Fortuna Köln and they are
now relegated. Incidentally at the same ground where an even later
goal got them promoted 5 years ago (against a Ten Hag coached side).

Six teams still in the fight. Lotte in trouble with 40 points, then
Grossaspach with 42, then teams on 43, 44, 44, 45.
Post by Jesper Lauridsen
Promotion is not so exciting. Karlsruhe in second is 4 points ahead of
Wehen in third, who has a further 4 points on Halle in 4th. Both are
up against teams with nothing to play for.
Karlsruhe officially promoted. Wehen to the playoff.
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